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Want me to do an article on you here (in the context of Fanonpedia, not like in general, if that makes sense). [[User:Bawitdaba|Bawitdaba]] ([[User talk:Bawitdaba|talk]]) 19:42, July 8, 2023 (UTC)
:Over half a year later but [[Hewer|it happened]] [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 12:51, March 31, 2024 (UTC)
 
== Living ==
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:With all due respect I have no idea what you're talking about but if it's some "grrr SMW bad" thing then I probably don't agree [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|Hewbert P. Edia]] ([[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|talk]]) 20:13, December 9, 2023 (UTC)
::Yeah i was a bit verbose above. Sometimes happens. It's actually me overwriting the article and categorization structure on some of the Grifkuba-owned wikis with one similar to ZW's. For instance, they have "Location and uses" for items and objects instead of "History," or "Features and overview" for locations instead of "History." And Mammal and Mammalian enemies are distinct categories as well (former is for species, the latter is for enemies). Even "Caves" and "Caverns" have their own categories. [[User:Bawitdaba|Bawitdaba]] ([[User talk:Bawitdaba|talk]]) 22:34, December 9, 2023 (UTC)
 
== an exhaustive list of everything smw canceled ==
 
I spent hours yesterday taking a look at everything that the wiki decided they don't want over the years, as well as some things I remember from memory and looking at the recent changes daily. I'm certain there's more, but my main focus was the proposals & talk page proposals: https://pastebin.com/r6wnK0k4 . not included in the list are merges of things that are obviously the same but are differently named between appearances (like some Paper Mario series items). [[User:Bawitdaba|Bawitdaba]] ([[User talk:Bawitdaba|talk]]) 14:39, January 3, 2024 (UTC)
:A merge is not a deletion, it's a re-organisation, and you'd be hard pressed to find a more comprehensive Super Mario encyclopedia than SMW. It's also not always a bad thing, often being better for organisation, consistency, etc., and I fail to get behind the logic of "if it's technically possible to argue that it's different then it's different" - it's basically just a "first come first served" philosophy where anyone happening to make a separate article is all it takes to permanently keep it separate no matter the logistics. Not to mention there are ''plenty'' of split proposals still, and plenty of disagreement between users on proposals both passed and failed, making it a little hard for me to see where you're coming from with your sinister characterisation of the "Super Mergist Wiki" (besides the obvious bias involved). To say nothing of your weird tendency to portray disagreements as some kind of "East vs. West" thing even when they have nothing to do with regional differences.<br>That said though, nice list. [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|Hewbert P. Edia]] ([[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|talk]]) 16:48, January 3, 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for complimenting the list, even in spite of some disagreements one may have. The main point of it wasn't really to antagonize the Super Mario Wiki (although it inevitably is that, seeing as it still has a comprehensive list of personal disagreements that I have with articles they either deleted or handled in ways). Basically, the main point is to show why I'm unprepared to be directly in charge of any community-based wiki with encyclopedic content a la SMW or Wikipedia (Mariopedia is diff bcuz someone else founded it), whereas this wiki allows for some more silliness (as I think as conveyed within the articles). I remember the days of being a part of the community, figuring things out with other editors. Now me and them can't see eye to eye on anything. So there's stuff that has a major chance of not flying by a community, such as full ''Super Mario'' franchise coverage on a Donkey Kong wiki, the mainline ''Super Mario'' series and ''Mario Kart 8'' on a Zelda wiki, or even full coverage of the NES furniture games on an Animal Crossing wiki, masterpiece items on an SSB wiki (at least based on what's in the demo, if the timer were to be theoretically absent). One could say, "Well, maybe you're doing something wrong," but as I've grown older, I can't help but be insistent on some of the ideas I just listed (to name a few). See how it's kind of tough for me and why I don't say much nowadays? :P
 
::Oh, I nearly forgot I named "Super Mergist Wiki" above. I thought it was an inside nickname between me and some of the Mariopedia folks. :P [[User:Bawitdaba|Bawitdaba]] ([[User talk:Bawitdaba|talk]]) 17:23, January 3, 2024 (UTC)
 
== im glad that you stil enjoy fanonpedia ==
 
Sorry that I'm the founder though and not someone more, erm, "reputable." :P [[User:Bawitdaba|Bawitdaba]] ([[User talk:Bawitdaba|talk]]) 22:06, January 31, 2024 (UTC)
 
== Rebrand + Rebrand = 2 Rebrands ==
 
okay i figured i'll post some updates. first i got new username (and updated user page and my [[Eeyore the Iowan Goat|mainspace article]] accordingly). you're now an admin (don't know how much that means to you; perhaps it'll help just in case of vandal attacks). Someone reopened the Nintendo Wiki on Miraheze, and I've been rebranding it mostly to suit the community's needs (earlier iterations are backed up). <s>it should be getting a new custom domain soon.</s> Okay, it did: nintendowiki.wiki (kind of like how there's zeldawiki.wiki).
 
If you're worried that it will affect this wiki, it won't; someone is just restyling the wiki, so I decided to help them out and modernize the look there more. There's proposals too, which I know you folks love to death. :P
 
Also, if you or someone else wants to do a Discord server for Fanonpedia (like how Nintendo Wiki had one i made years ago), you're welcome to do so, but do note that I won't be on there (and I doubt it will have much attention). [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 16:51, February 16, 2024 (UTC)
:You had me at proposals {{color-link|User:Hewbert P. Edia|green|Hewer (Now in Green!)}} 00:28, February 17, 2024 (UTC)
 
== fanonpedia is top tier dank ==
 
it's even more dank when rmv founded it [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 18:29, May 10, 2024 (UTC)
:I think we can say with certainty now that the results did indeed vary [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 19:57, May 10, 2024 (UTC)
 
== clubhouse ==
 
My friend here is [https://mariopt.miraheze.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o:ChristopherPAraujo still looking for editors on his Kirby wiki]. I don't really mainspace edit there nowadays, since I'm more of a ''Super Mario'' guy, though it did make me wonder if you have the ability to work your magic and convert it into a personal clubhouse (not meaning like edit mainspace necessarily, just lurk there as one of your personal safe havens like here :P). I'll see if I can set up a proposals system there like I did on the Nintendo wiki that others wanted reopened. If someone wants a community, they need to understand what it's about. I don't have proposals system here or on Mariopedia set up, but anyway. [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 17:00, May 22, 2024 (UTC)
:You can now play as [[File:KA Kirby sprite.png]] Kirby. [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 18:29, May 23, 2024 (UTC)
::I'm beginning to wonder if your friends at Super Mario Wiki and WiKirby will cancel you for editing, erm, "undesirable" wikis. :P Stay safe [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 20:07, May 23, 2024 (UTC)
:::Eh, I doubt it, don't see why they'd care about harmless knock-offs<br>Unrelated but wanted to mention, [https://www.google.com/search?q=fanonpedia Fanonpedia now comes up fourth on Google search results] (not sure when that happened but I remember trying before and not finding it). Achievement? [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 21:30, May 23, 2024 (UTC)
::::Harmless knockoffs? Yeah I think Miraheze does decently with SEO, from what I know, so that's neat it got that high. [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 02:40, May 24, 2024 (UTC)
:::::Oh, Fanonpedia's no knockoff, I was more referencing Mariopedia (and I guess Kirby Encyclopedia but I admittedly don't really know the history of that one). But there's nothing wrong with knockoffs, you know what they say about imitation and flattery [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 12:37, May 24, 2024 (UTC)
 
== oh lmao ==
 
[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Results_May_Vary&oldid=3917258&diff=cur The hell is this?] I haven't done squat there for a while and I get a notice from this user saying "wah you're bad wah you're mean." Afraid he's like one year too late to the party. [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 00:29, May 28, 2024 (UTC)
:I guess they like sticking it to banned folks if the latest matter on their talk page is any indication. "you may be cited for trespassing on these grounds while banned" is a great line though [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 08:54, May 28, 2024 (UTC)
::So like it's a "you may be <nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki> on these grounds?" [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 12:41, May 28, 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes.<ref>[https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:WhosOnline definitely trespassed 100%]</ref> [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 15:27, May 28, 2024 (UTC)
::::Remember when I said how I live in the Who's Online of SMW? I think I socked to tell one of the admins that "you can't get rid of me, i literally live in the whos online" [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 03:55, May 29, 2024 (UTC)
:::::Close, it was [https://triforcewiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Doc_von_Schmeltwick#Proxy:_The_Sequel here] ("''Super Mario'' franchise is not the future" was a [https://fanonpedia.com/wiki/Scripulous_Fingore?diff=prev&oldid=284 funny reference] by the way). [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 12:57, May 29, 2024 (UTC)
::::::Unsure how you knew about that or if you're gettin, erm, "intel," from some place, so to speak (or I'm indulging in too much random stuff I'm finding from Superbuy.com, aka Taobao through proxy). I didn't make that connection, but that was me having a hard time accepting change, since I've never properly aged out of my childhood.
::::::Yeah, I'd say you know a lot of RMV lore. Lots of it is cursed & stuff I wish I could erase, but alas, someone told it to me best (an older SMW user), "The most important thing of making a mistake? Don't do it again!" And when consequences happen for one's actions, including being namedropped by kiwis (and I mean in a way like they want to see you act like a Looney Tunes character over it), that's a sure sign of, "ok yea, I better stop doing that". Won't name drop, but one of the posters legit disliked me, though the other had a little too much fun with me and took it a little too far, but at least me and that poster (his brother, at least) do not hate each other and said good bye on good terms. I thought a little bit of what they posted was ironically based, like when the dropped info of when my mind went to a place of comparing ''Zelda'' dungeon names to Yale societies because I was locked in deep fringe conspiracy shit that took me until summer of last year to break away from and toss out as total unsubstantiated nonsense. My condolences toward my old friends and the person whom I targeted. I left two years ago, since it's the most one can do if they do something that results in friends beyond repair, but from last I've heard, they're doing okay. Hopefully it continues to be that way. [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 20:33, May 29, 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I assure you I operate alone purely out of curiosity and am not particularly motivated by some hatred of you. Even though I'm not much of a Zelda guy, I checked Triforce Wiki occasionally just to see how it was getting on. I still kinda stand by what I said somewhere above about not knowing what to think about you, but I guess it's good to hear you tried to improve. In hindsight I'm not really sure why I was so eager to snoop around looking for RMV lore, but I'm glad I did since otherwise I wouldn't have found Fanonpedia. [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 20:54, May 29, 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I still wish people would consider Zelda more integral to ''Super Mario''. I've typed up paragraphs going insane over close connections between those two franchises. It's okay if you don't know what to think about me. I've been weird and wild, but I will give you credit for seeing it was an attempt for me to improve.
 
::::::::You'll prob find a whole treasure trove of stuff on me over at Fandom, if you continue exploring there. I was hesitant to drop hints to that in recent times because of paranoia that things would follow over to there, but the dust has long since settled, so yeah. [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 21:11, May 29, 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Funny story there, a while back one day I wasn't even looking for RMV stuff but happened to google "porplemontage" out of sheer curiosity, and I was met with a bizarre result ([https://villainsfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Porplemontage I believe it was this one but sadly the link no longer seems to work]), then looked around a bit and ended up discovering "Gematarix" completely by accident, so that was pretty funny. [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 21:40, May 29, 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::There is no way in a million years I'd author that, or anything on users in general. No idea why RPG Gamer wrote that or how Xzelion managed to insert his way into there. I asked RPG Gamer if it was because the new user base took Xzelion's former fame and glory, which he confirmed to be the case. I don't know, just sounded like a reason that made sense to me. [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 21:52, May 29, 2024 (UTC)
 
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== permission ==
 
[https://crashbandicootwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User%3AResults_May_Vary&type=revision&diff=7953&oldid=7375 Are you okay that I quoted one of your statements in this user page edit here?] [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 18:05, June 6, 2024 (UTC)
:Flattered [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 23:51, June 7, 2024 (UTC)
 
== invite ==
 
If you want to invite like [https://crashbandicootwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GuntherBayBeee&curid=3101&diff=7955&oldid=7092 this guy] (who's from Jiggywikki apparently) and others to here, nintendo wiki, elsewhere to just add whatever the hell they want, you're welcome to do so. i think super mario wiki is a hot corporate mess ever since my permaban and that terrible new Monobook skin in 2022 and slow-mo witnessing a train wreck in actions. and some reason folks like you seem to love it, so why not do it for just about anything within the range of like Nintendo or something? (that is, if you want to , of course) so free [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:HamburgerSSBB.PNG food], free accommodation, free service, that kind of stuff. or just a sandbox to mess around in for later including in other niwa wikis or whatever doesn't have a home. perhaps i could gradually be getting back on track with community or somethin like in "ol days" (soooorta, since i'm still in too much stoicism to resurface on social platforms) while retaining my "creative differences" [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 17:23, June 7, 2024 (UTC)
:Yeah I gotta disagree on the "hot corporate mess" front (how can it be corporate when it's not being run by a corporation but by volunteer editors almost all of whom aren't profiting), I'm of the opinion that the background of Mario items looks better than the words "super mario wiki" over and over (it looks good here though don't worry), and I'm, uh, pro-Mario Portal I guess. I have a lot of respect for Super Mario Wiki, I think it probably holds the title of best fan wiki for anything, at least that I'm familiar with. Anyway, I like the idea of more Fanonpedians, this place is the best chaotic sandbox/encyclopedia. [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 23:51, June 7, 2024 (UTC)
::Okay sorry, maybe it was a bit of ban bias on my end. i guess one could say "volunteers who despise me and vice versa." regardless I would've still liked the old background to stay, even if I had not been permb& i like the idea of more fanonpedians too, as long as it doesn't get like out of control to the point of straight up vandalism or something. i'm amazed that guntherbb (who originated from GWN afaik, since I remember him from a few years ago on jiggywikki) literally got porple to work on two Gravity Rush wikis with him (stood out when i noticed on the rc). meanwhile, im here literally left to figure out all of the wiki stuff by myself. [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 03:02, June 8, 2024 (UTC)
 
== Criminally underrated opinion ==
 
Zelda Wiki was expelled from NIWA... You know, Zelda Wiki.org, the one that redirects to Fandom. So they had to create a new wiki...after forking all of the content from ZW.org. [[User:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|Eeyore the Iowan Goat]] ([[User talk:Eeyore the Iowan Goat|talk]]) 00:43, July 1, 2024 (UTC)
:Almost, but you got the order wrong, the fork happened first (though iirc I think it took the threat of expulsion to get them going but I could be wrong) [[User:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">Hewbert P. Edia</span>]] [[User talk:Hewbert P. Edia|<span style="color:green">(He's Green!)</span>]] 08:04, July 1, 2024 (UTC)
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